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Doug King's avatar

Having witnessed the Chinese approach to Nortel in the 90's - planting bugs and imbedding spies (willing or unwilling) in the workforce, this seems like a smarter strategy. Thanks for shining a light on this. IMO it's the best piece you've written.

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Hua Bin's avatar

Your metaphor of the Catfish effect is certainly valid. That is actually a common phrase in Chinese business circles. Your examples of how China lured Tesla, Google and Amazon in and then turned on them are based on western media disinformation. They are simply not true.

I was a tech executive in China in the 20 years since the start of the internet age and lived through the period when tech exploded in China. Actually I led eBay's China business when the company went in the market. I can assure you eBay and Amazon exited the Chinese domestic business, not due to government policies but purely due to competitive pressure. Neither was flexible and nimble enough to win in the domestic market. However, both have retained a profitable cross border business with China-based merchants selling on their platforms to global buyers. This segment is successful because they are competitive in demand generation outside of China.

Tesla lost to BYD, Nio, Li Motors, and Cherry not because the government discouraged people from buying its cars. Instead consumers just want better price and quality from the other brands. Facebook was never in China because it couldn't comply with Chinese laws regulating all social media including domestic ones. Google was in for a while but refused to follow the local regulations and moved to HK.

you need to spend a bit more time learning about the truth if you are interested in understanding China. Relying on western propadanga machines won't get you very far. You would end up regurgitating the same falsehood with just a different spin.

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